* Alexandre Oliva: > Hmm... Interesting. It must have been a side effect of the enabling > of forced `relink' on GNU/Linux/x86. Anyway, on platforms that > actually require relinking, this problem remains, and I see no way to > overcome it other than arranging for automake to install libraries > before executables, as you suggest. This shouldn't be a big problem, > anyway. > > A bigger problem could show up if two libraries in the same directory, > one dependent on the other, are installed concurrently. If relinking > is needed for the dependent library, we have a problem. It appears to > me that user will have to live without `make -j install', in this > case. Alex Hornby > Here's an Automake patch and changelog entry allow make -j install on > such degenerate systems (and Linux with buggy libtool ) > > If you install to locations other that bin_ and lib_ then a larger fix > is necessary, but this should fix the 90% case. * in depend2.am, in specialization case, what if @SOURCE@ is found in srcdir? We can't depend on $ $@-1 grep -E -l '\b_\(' lib/*.c src/*.c | sort > $@-2 diff -u $@-1 $@-2 rm -f $@-1 $@-2 * support prog_LIBS as override for LIBS * Scan configure.in using the same trick that autoheader uses. This will be much more reliable. * Test subdir-objects option with yacc, lex, ansi2knr Our locking scheme won't prevent a parallel make from losing if there are two `bar.o' files and the timing is just right This only happens with parallel make and no-`-c -o' compiler, so it probably isn't very important `-c -o' when doing libtool try to find a losing compiler and see if it really works. (actually: hack config.cache and do it) * We're using `$<' in explicit rules when using per-exe flags per-exe flags don't work for CPPFLAGS/YFLAGS/LFLAGS. Fix. LIBOBJS shouldn't be used when there are per-exe flags (?) * Need a way to pass flags to makeinfo esp --no-split * test `make clean' with subdir-objects * Test nodist_SOURCES with lex, yacc, etc. * Support subdir-objects with fortran * Allow creation of Java .zip/.jar files in natural way If you are building a compiled Java library, then the .zip/.jar ought to be made automatically. * Run automake before libtool. It will report an error but still won't put the file into the disty. This is wrong. From Mark H Wilkinson * CFLAGS only defined if C source seen but really it should be a configure variable, shouldn't it? There are other examples of this [ moving to autoconf --trace ought to fix this ] * in gnu/gnits mode, give error if Makefile.am overrides a user variable like CFLAGS. [ this is low priority because the package author can always circumvent our check by redefining in configure.in plus it is probably better to encourage good behavior than to punish bad ] * If we see `foo.o' in LIBOBJS, and we've seen AC_OBJEXT, then complain. [ how will we know that? it is better to handle this automatically via an autoconf hook ] * examine possibility of using any character in a macro name and rewriting names automatically. this means we must rewrite all references as well. [ this is a 2.0-style feature ] * AM_CONFIG_HEADER might generate the wrong stamp file names when given multiple headers. Write a test. * Currently don't correctly handle multiple inputs to a config header. * header stamp files still in wrong dirs. stamp-h.in must be in dir with h.in file stamp-h must be in dir with output file * foo=bar if cond foo += joe endif ... this ought to work. The fix is probably complicated * `distcheck' and `dist' should depend on `all' * Add code to generate foo-config script like gnome, gtk * `DEFS += foo' won't work. That's because DEFS is defined in header-vars.am, which is read after the user's Makefile.am. This will be a problem for any macro defined internally [ fixing this will probably fix the nasty `exeext redefines foo_PROGRAMS' hack that is in there right now ] [ we currently give an error when this occurs, so this is very low priority ] * document user namespace for macro/target names adopt some conventions and use uniformly [ this is a good thing for the rewrite ] * make distcheck uses directories like `=build'. Some (very rare) POSIX systems don't support `=' in filenames. If this ever becomes a problem, fix it * distclean must remove config.status can't this cause problems for maintainer-clean? shouldn't maintainer-clean print the message before running any part of the make? (just to slow things down long enough for the user to stop it) (maybe doesn't matter since people who even know about maintainer-clean already have a clue) * There are probably more bugs in variable_conditions_sub along the lines of the one that caused cond4.test to fail. * reintroduce AM_FUNC_FNMATCH which sets LIBOBJS Then have automake know about fnmatch.h. [ probably should wait for autoconf to get right functionality ] * Allow per-object cflags: bin_PROGRAMS = foo foo_CFLAGS = -DFOO * per-object compiler flags do not apply to libobjs -> give error in this case * At the same time, allow sources in subdirs: foo_SOURCES = x/y.c This requires `mkdir x' at build time [ both of these require per-file rules, and not pattern rules ] [ use user-written suffix rules to generate the per-file rules in an automatic way -- this would be mucho cool ] * Every program foo has FOOFLAGS right now. It should also have AM_FOOFLAGS, which can be set in Makefile.am. DONE: but needs to be documented * "make diff" capability look at gcc's Makefile.in to see what to do or look at maint program * BUILT_SOURCES should not be distributed, even when they appear in another _SOURCES line. [? or maybe just leave this up to the to-be-defined generic distribution method ] must completely revisit the entire BUILT_SOURCES idea * in --cygnus, clean-info not generated at top level * what if an element of a scanned variable looks like $(FOO).$(BAR) ? or some other arbitrary thing? right now we try to cope, but not very well [ this is only of theoretical interest for now ] * make sure every variable that is used is also defined [ we don't really look at variable uses in detail. 2.0 thing ] * make sure `missing' defines are generated * if no AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE, then don't handle `missing' stuff. Yuck! * missing should handle install -d and rmdir -p (for uninstall) * a couple ways to be smarter: - notice when a .c file is a target somewhere, and auto-add it to BUILT_SOURCES - notice a target of the form `.x.y:' and assume it is a suffix rule * NORMAL_INSTALL / NORMAL_UNINSTALL -vs- recursive rules [ requires changes to the standard ] * copyrights on m4 files, aclocal output * should not put texiname_TEXINFOS into distribution should rename this macro anyway, to foo_texi_DEPENDENCIES * *all* installed scripts should support --version, --help For now I guess I'll just have automake give an error if it encounters non-C source in a libtool library specification. * must split $obj into two parts: one for libtool and one for deansification. Otherwise .S files will be deansified! * ansi2knr must currently appear in a directory that has some source * if program has the same name as a target, do something sensible: - if the target is internal, rename it - if the target is mandated (eg, "info"), tell the user consider auto-modifying the program name to work around this * should separate actual options from strictness levels strictness should only cover requirements You should be able to pick and choose options should clean up texinfos.am; one rule is repeated 3 times, but shouldn't be should always use perl -w rewrite in guile (RMS request) at the same time, consider adding a GUI could use the same parsing code for the GUI and the standalone version that means figuring out a better representation of internal state [ that's easy -- anything is better than what we have now ] having just one Makefile for a project would give a big speed increase for a project with many directories, eg glibc. ideally (?) you'd still be able to have a Makefile.am in each directory somehow; this might make editing conceptually easier. * finish up TAGS work * `acinstall' * only remove libtool at top level? * clean up source directory by moving stuff into subdirs * consider adding pkglibexecdir, maybe others? requests for pkg-dirs with version included Avoid loops when installing; instead unroll them in automake * for new autoconf: * completely handle multi-":" mode for AC_CONFIG_HEADER * Scan multiple input files when Makefile is generated? This would provide flexibility for large projects; subsumes the "Makefile.tmpl" idea [ can't do this. must explain why in manual. basically, solving all the problems is too hard like: how to remove redundancies between generated .in files instead should implement `include' directive for Makefile.am ] * for multi-":" mode and AC_OUTPUT, it might be good to pick the first input file that has a corresponding .am file. Some long-term projects: * if $(FOO) is used somewhere, ensure FOO is defined, either by user or by automake if possible [ include, += support ] * even better would be allowing targets in different included fragments to be merged. e.g., `install-local'. consider putting all check-* targets onto @check? To support --help/--version checking? take diff-n-query code from libit Per Bothner says: Per> 1) Being able to build a set of non-source programs Per> from source programs, without necessarily linking them together. Per> I.e. one should be able to say something like: Per> dummy_SOURCES=foo.c bar.c Per> and automake should realize that it needs to build foo.o and bar.o. Per> 2) Being intelligent about new kinds of suffixes. Per> If it sees: Per> SUFFIXES = .class .java Per> and a suffix rule of the form: Per> .java.class: Per> then it should be able to realize it can build .class files from Per> .java files, and thus be able to generate a list of Per> .class files from a list of .java source files. !! Must fix require_file stuff. It is really gross, and I don't understand it any more. Jim's idea: should look for @setfilename and warn if filenames too long * guess split size ** many requests for a way to omit a file from the distribution. Should be done like `!foo' or `~foo' in _SOURCES, etc. Such files should be removed explicitly after the copy step! Doing this requires rewriting macros before generating Makefile.in. from joerg-martin schwarz: -- If Makefile.am contains $(CC), $(COMPILE), $(YLWRAP), .... in an explicitly written rule, you should emit the corresponding Makefile variables automatically. Configuring in the large: * allow hierarchy of dirs to share one aclocal.m4 How? consider printing full file name of Makefile.am or configure.in when giving error. This would help for very large trees with many configure.in scripts From the GNU Standards. These things could be checked, and probably should be if --gnu. * Make sure that the directory into which the distribution unpacks (as well as any subdirectories) are all world-writable (octal mode 777). * Make sure that no file name in the distribution is more than 14 characters long. * Don't include any symbolic links in the distribution itself. (ditto hard links) * Make sure that all the files in the distribution are world-readable. ** also, check --help output and --version output. Idea from François * standards no longer prohibit ANSI C. What does this imply for the de-ansi-fication feature? [ must keep it -- some users rely on it ] should be able to determine what is built by looking at rules (and configure.in). Then built man pages (eg) could automatically be omitted from the distribution. Henrik Frystyk Nielsen says: Henrik> 4) Flags like --include-deps are lost when you make changes to Henrik> Makefile.am files and automake is run automatically. It would Henrik> be nice to keep these flags as I now have to redo everything Henrik> manually. ... what about other options here too? Think about: maybe "make check" should just bomb if error occurs? Then user must use "make -k check". This is probably more natural. Consider: "cvs" option adds some cvs-specific rules? Right now, targets generated internally (eg "install") are not overridable by user code. This should probably be possible, even though it isn't very important. This could be done by generating all internal rules via a function call instead of just appending to $output_rules. [ this will be harder to implement when scanning a rule like all-recursive from subdirs.am ] * Should be a way to have "nobuild_PROGRAMS" which aren't even built, but which could be by running the magic make command. Other priorities: * Must rewrite am_install_var. Should break into multiple functions. This will allow the callers to be a little smarter. * Rewrite clean targets. * Must rewrite error handling code. Right now it is a real mess Should fix up require_file junk at the same time djm wants ``LINKS'' variable; list of things to link together after install. In BSD environment, use: LINKS = from1 to1 from2 to2 ... Need way to say there are no suffixes in a Makefile (Franc,ois' "override" idea suffices here) Check to make sure various scripts are executable (IE when looking for them in a directory) Use recode in dist target when MAINT_CHARSET specified. Read caveats in automake.in before doing this. Note the same problem used to apply to the no-dependencies option; maybe it still should? Note also that each Makefile.am must be rewritten at "make dist" time if MAINT_CHARSET and DIST_CHARSET are not identical. NOTE: gettext must arrange for all .po files not to be recoded. In the long term this might be a problem (consider when some systems use Unicode but the rest do not) MAINT_CHARSET *must* be local to each Makefile.am, to enable merged distributions. DIST_CHARSET must be passed down to subdir makes during a "make dist" Handle dist-zoo. Generally add more DOS support. Maybe run "doschk" (why isn't this merged with "pathchk"?) when doing a dist. Do whatever else François says here... Add support for html via an option. Use texi2html. Use "html_TEXINFOS", and htmldir = .../html. Include html files in distribution. Also allow "html_DATA", for raw .html files. [ when will texinfo directly support html? ] uninstall and pkg-dirs should rm -rf the dir. a potential bug: configure puts "blah.o" into LIBOBJS, thus implying these files can't be de-ansified. Not a problem? [ fix by using ansi2knr wrapper program ] In general most .am files should be merged into automake. For instance all the "clean" targets could be merged by keeping lists of things to be removed. This would be a lot nicer looking. Note that the install targets probably should not be merged; it is sometimes useful to only install a small part. Clean up the output: * Order rules sensibly * Ensure every line has a purpose. Omit unused stuff * Eliminate extraneous rules when possible (eg 'install-am' stuff) * Make sure vertical spacing is correct Omit program transform vars from header if no program installed. This is currently pretty hard to do. (But with beautification code it would probably be easy) Lex, yacc support: * It would be nice to automatically support using bison's better features to rename the output files. This requires autoconf support * Consider supporting syntax from autoconf "derived:source", eg: y.tab.c:perly.y for yacc and lex source * what if you use flex and the option to avoid -lfl? should support this? Multi-language support: * should have mapping of file extensions to languages * should automatically handle the linking issue (special-case C++) * must get compile rules for various languages; FORTRAN probably most important unimplemented language This should be integrated in some way with Per's idea. Eg .f.o rules should be recognized & auto-handled in _SOURCES That way any random language can be treated with C/C++ on a first-class basis (maybe) It might be cool to generate .texi dependencies by grepping for @include. (If done, it should be done the same way C dependencies are done) It would be good to check some parts of GNU standards. Already check for install-sh and mkinstalldirs. What else is required to be in package by GNU standards or by automake? Some things for --strictness=gnits: * "cd $(foo); something" is an error in a rule. Should be: "cd $(foo) && something" * Look for 'ln -s' and warn about using $(LN) and AC_PROG_LN_S * Look for $(LN) and require AC_PROG_LN_S Auto-distribute "ChangeLog.[0-9]+"? "ChangeLog.[a-z]+"? Internationalize. [ gettext doesn't have the necessary machinery yet ] am_error should use printf-style arguments (for eventual gettext scheme) François says the ordering of files in a distribution should be as follows: * README * source files * derived files I agree, but I don't see how to implement this yet. It might be easier if "derived files" is limited to those that Automake itself knows about, eg output of yacc. Check all source files to make sure that FSF address is up-to-date. --gnits or --gnu only. Merge each -vars.am file with corresponding ".am" file. Can do this because of changes to &file_contents. Should libexec programs have the name transform done on them? Order the output rules sensibly, so FOO_SOURCES and FOO_OBJECTS are together and rules are in the usual order. Make the output minimal: only output definitions for variables that are used. djm says: David> To avoid comments like the one about subdirs getting buried in David> the middle of a Makefile.in, how about pushing comments that David> start with ### to the top of the Makefile.in (in order)? Sort David> of like how Autoconf uses diversions to force initialization David> code to the top of configure. Karl Berry says: Karl> 2) Your Makefile variable names are generally uppercase, but GNU Karl> generally uses lowercase. Not that it matters :-). ================================================================ Stuff for aclocal: probably should put each group of m4 files into a subdir owned by the containing application. ================================================================ Document: AM_MISSING_PROG how to use the generated makefiles - standard targets - required targets - NORMAL_INSTALL junk what goes in AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR multi-":" mode in AC_OUTPUT -- automake only looks at the first file also a note on how a .am file is found in this case rationale for avoiding make CFLAGS="$CFLAGS" ... in subdirs make rule a package that installs its own aclocal macros write example of using automake with dejagnu follow calc example in dejagnu docs document which variables are actually scanned and which are not. Document customary ordering of Makefile.am. From François. Should include extended version of diagram from Autoconf (suggested by Greg Woods) Make a definition of the term "source" document how to use Automake with CVS. Idea from Mark Galassi. Also include Greg Woods' more sophisticated "cvs-dist" target. document rebuilding configure. CONFIGURE_DEPENDENCIES CONFIG_STATUS_DEPENDENCIES -- must document all variables that are supposed to be public knowledge must document the targets required for integration with non-automake-using subdirs document the "make SHELL='/bin/sh -x'" trick for debugging section on relationship to GNU make. include notes on parallel makes add a concept index move discussion of cygwin32, etags, mkid under other gnu tools CCLD, CXXLD, FLD ================================================================ Things to do for gcc: Regularize dependency generation. Add new flags: -MH Generate a dummy dependency for each header file mentioned. -MT NAME Set name of target -MF NAME Set name of output file Then automake can use -MD -MH -MT 'foo.o foo.lo' -MF .deps/... ================================================================ Things to do for autoconf: * patch autoreconf to run automake and aclocal. I've done this but it is not really available. It can't be made available until automake is officially released ================================================================ Libraries: * Should support standalone library along with subdir library in same Makefile.am. Maybe: turn off "standalone" mode if library's Makefile.am is not only one specd? [ add an option for this ] ================================================================ Longer term: Would it be useful to integrate in some way with the Debian package building utility? Must check. maybe it would be possible to deal with all the different package utilities somehow. Lately I've been hearing good things about the RedHat packaging utilities. Why are there so many of these? Are they fun to write or something? The RedHat package utility is called RPM; see ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/code/rpm It actually has problems, like no configure script and no documentation. For Cygnus it would probably be good to be able to handle the native package utility on each platform. There are probably 3 or 4 of these (sysv, solaris?, aix?) tcl/unix/Makefile.in has some code to generate a Solaris package. Automake probably can't do all of this on its own. A new tool might be a better idea I have some notes from a Debian developer on how the integration should work ================================================================ A tool to guess what the local Makefile.am should look like: (see Gord's Maint program!) * Probably integrate with autoscan * Use various simple rules to determine what to do: * get name of top directory, sans version info * search for .c files with 'main' in them * if in main.c, use directory name for program * if in more than one, generate multiple programs * if not found, generate a library named after directory * order subdir searches correctly: lib first, src last * assume 'testsuite' dir means we are using dejagnu * maybe be smart about reading existing Makefile.am, so tool can be run for incremental changes? You could imagine: Makefile.am: autoproject --incremental ================================================================ Stuff NOT to do, and why: consider auto-including any file that matches "*.in". [ no: po/Makefile.in shouldn't be included ] must look at mkid to see how it works (for subdir usage) [ right now, it doesn't. i don't see a simple fix right now ] if configure.in not found, move up a directory and try again? This could eliminate a common source of problems. [ this is just a bad idea ] * scripts are installed in $exec_prefix/bin, not $prefix/bin Bug or feature? [ the consensus on Gnits is that this isn't required. doubters can work around it anyway ] * make the auto-dep code crash if GNU make not in use? (doesn't it already?) Looked at a program called 'ezmake', which seems to do something similar. The only idea there that is possibly worth stealing is using globs in definitions. Also has negations. Eg in a directory with files a.c, b.c and c.c, the line: foo_SOURCES = *.c ~c.c would be equivalent to: foo_SOURCES = a.c b.c Is this worth implementing? [ No... it is more reliable to spell everything out. ] Scan source directories and warn about missing files, eg .c/.h files that aren't mentioned? [ distcheck makes this less useful ] * quoting bugs - how to install file with a space in its name? [ don't bother with this -- make is just too losing ]